Frequently Asked Questions

How much oil or grease do I need to buy?

A general rule of thumb is that 2g will be a generous amount for around 80 switches. If you think you might want enough for two keyboards, it's more cost-effective to go for a 5g package.

 

How can I remove unwanted or spilled fluorinated oil or grease?

Using a paper towel to take away as much as possible, and then going over the area with a microfibre cloth, should remove most of the lubricant, except for a thin film which will remain. To remove this film, you will need to use a product containing a specialist solvent, such as our very own de-loober.

 

Can I use rubbing alcohol or acetone to remove fluorinated lubricant residue?

No. Perfluorocarbon ether is resistant to almost all organic solvents, except for specialist chemicals called fluorocarriers. Using an unsuitable solvent such as alcohol or acetone may simply damage the material you are attempting to remove the lubricant from. Try using de-loober!.

 

Which lubricant should I use for my keyboard?

Great question. It's largely a matter of personal preference, and you may want to try several before settling on your favourite. However, there are some guidelines you will want to follow to ensure that you choose from the greases most suitable for your switches. There is some guidance available on our product pages, but there is also a wealth of useful information to be found in the various hangouts of mechanical keyboard enthusiasts. A good place to start might be this post on Keebtalk.

 

Do I need to lube switches which have been pre-lubed at the factory?

All switches have a small amount of factory-applied lubricant around the stem, simply to stop them disintegrating with the friction of normal use. This is usually either a lithium soap, or a PTFE powder suspended in oil. Whilst these are adequate for general use, they are unlikely to have the optimum mechanical properties to bring out the best in the switch. Over time, often the factory-applied lubricant will either dry out, leaving a scratchy feel caused by the remaining dry powder, or migrate into the spring well in the bottom housing, causing sticky springs and an unpleasant bottom-out key action.

 

I am using switches with POM stems, which are described as 'self-lubricating'. Do I need to do anything?

The term 'self-lubricating' unfortunately comes from a misunderstanding around the properties of POM. The plastic itself does not produce any lubrication or lubricating effect; the term is supposed to describe the very smooth feel of the plastic. However, this smooth feel does not on its own translate to a smooth switch action. The interaction between different stem and rail plastics will result in wear, leading to a scratchy feeling quite quickly. It's important to apply a layer of lube between these parts to get the best out of these switches and ensure their longevity.

 

If I mix together an oil and a grease, won't they eventually separate?

Yes, to some extent, they will begin to separate after some time sitting idle and unworked in a container. However, this is as true for manufactured greases as it is for your own home-mixed grease, and a quick stir will restore the original consistency. Lower-viscosity products tend to separate more quickly than higher-viscosity preparations. In practice it doesn't matter, because for thin-film applications such as mechanical keyboard parts, the adhesive process of adsorption causes the lubricant to bind to surfaces in a sticky film. This is also one of the reasons why they are so difficult to remove.

 

Can I add some sort of binding agent in order to stop the grease and oil from separating?

No, and this is not necessary. In general, mixing additives into to your lubricant will alter the consistency and viscosity, and might also cause issues around mechanical stability, acoustic properties, material compatibility and chemical safety. The greases used in our products do not use binding additives.

 

Do I need to boil lubricants when I mix them together?

No. Fluorinated lubricants will mix together perfectly well at room temperature. Additionally, heating perfluorocarbon ethers can be dangerous if the temperature is too high, as a breakdown of the polymer can release toxic gases.

 

Why can't I find 103g0, 105g0 or 107g0 oil?

These model numbers don't technically exist. The 'g' notation you may have seen in the mechanical keyboard community is used as shorthand to represent the NLGI consistency grade of a grease. These grades have no meaning for lubricating oils, as they are not firm enough to be classified on the NLGI scale. Wherever you see '105g0', you can take that to mean '105'. However, this is not the case with greases, for which the default NLGI grade is usually 2. So, when you are purchasing grease, be sure to double check that the grade being sold is the one you are expecting!

 

Are all your products genuine? Do you sell mixed greases?

Every product available for sale is genuine and unmodified, aside from being repackaged into a smaller container. We do not sell mixed or altered greases; every available grease is sold just as we received it from the manufacturer or distributor, repacked into our own packaging.

 

Can I use these lubricants for applications other than mechanical keyboards?

Of course! Thanks to their chemistry and longevity, they are very versatile products which can provide a significant upgrade over petroleum-based lubricants. Because we purchase from official distributors, we have access to the manufacturer's technical expertise, and will be happy to help our customers find the most suitable product for any application.

 

Can you provide the batch number and Certificate of Analysis for a particular product?

Yes - please contact us at support@loob.no, and we will provide you with any available QA information.

 

I am looking for something not listed on your store. Can you get hold of it for me?

Probably! Drop us an email, and we will do our best to source it for you.

 

Where can I buy other keyboard parts in Norway?

We would recommend Mekanisk, who are talented and well-respected designers of keyboard hardware, based here in Norway. You can find them here.

 

Will you be a vendor for my group-buy?

We are currently considering how best to participate in group-buy projects. We receive a lot of these requests, so please help us out by sending full details, including pricing, renders and expected timeline, to makers@loob.no. No GeekHack links please.

 

How accurately do you measure and weigh your products?

Our products are filled to weight, using laboratory balances which are professionally calibrated and certified as accurate to within 0.001g. Products may be overfilled by up to 0.1g, but never under-filled.

 

Do you supply products at wholesale prices to other vendors?

Yes! Please find more information here.

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